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Legend/Myth dragon history

Discussion in 'History and Culture' started by moonpiece, Jul 30, 2009.

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    UPDATED!!(july, 31 - 09)

    setelah berselancar di antara ombak yang ada di negeri om google telah disimpulkan bahwa naga itu ada :onion-86:
    nah sekarang setuju ngak setujunya para juragan nih yg dipertanyakan :onion-50:

    pertama2 kita liat dari sisi paling umum yang diketahui tentang "naga".
    naga adalah hewan yang berbentuk sekilas seperti ular tetapi berkaki.. ada 2 versi yg ditafsirkan tentang bentuk seekor naga, dan naga dianggap merupakan hewan mithologi bahkan hanya cerita fiktif..
    dari kebudayaan timur naga di gambar kan berukuran sangat panjang dan biasanya berwarna hijau, sedangkan di barat naga lebih berbentuk seperti dinosaurus dengan ukuran badan yang besar..

    telah banyak saksi mata yang mengatakan bahwa mereka melihat ataupun memotret seekor naga.. tapi, kebenarannya tetap susah terungkap dan diragukan :onion-39:

    Naga itu sebenarnya apa sih :???: bentuk aslinya sebenarnya apa :???:
    ada 2 versi jawaban yang bisa ditelusuri
    dragon from the west :

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    ver 1: naga merupakan mahluk buas yang dipercayai menjaga tempat2 penting di jama dahulu, selain itu naga digambarkan sebagai hewan buas dan simbol kehancuran..
    pada jaman dahulu para kesatria yang dapat membunuh naga dianggap sebagai pahlawan yang luar biasa.. oleh karna itu banyak kesatria yang mencari nama dengan bertarung dengan naga..
    ver 2: naga dianggap sebagai mahluk sebelum manusia ada di dunia, karna itu naga dikaitkan dengan hewan jenis purbakala.. teori ini muncul karena adanya pertanyaan mengapa manusia yakin ada sejarah tentang seekor naga seakan2 hewan naga tersebut benar2 ada pada jaman dahulu.. padahal belum ada yg melihat bentuk naga tersebut..


    dragon from the east :

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    versi ini merupakan yang paling saya yakini..
    dalam sejarah cina naga dianggap mahluk suci (tidak dikategorikan sebagai hewan ataupun monster)
    naga disini diyakini sebagai pembawa berkah, sangat kuat dan dihormati, bertolak belakang dengan versi barat..
    dalam ajaran mayoritas keagamaan yang ada di cina mentafsirkan bahwa ada 31 alam kehidupan yang dimana manusia terdapat di dalamnya.. di struktur 31 alam kehidupan tersebut naga menempati alam yang bernama Câtumahârâjikâ dimana alam tersebut diyakini sebagai alam surgawi yg paling rendah.
    (Nâgo/Nâgî) naga yang memiliki kesaktian, yang mampu menyalin rupa dalam wujud makhluk lain seperti manusia, binatang dan sebagainya.. di perkirakan mempunyai usia 500 tahun dewa/ kira2 9 juta tahun manusia.

    UPDATED!!(july, 31 - 09)
    ini jenis2 yang baru diketemuin (source campuran antara myth dan legend) :

    Elemental = api, udara, air, dan tanah
    Race =
    Characteristics:
    One head watches while the other head sleeps
    If skin is nailed to a tree, the tree will be easy to cut
    Is the scientific name for a legless worm lizard
    Also called the "Mother of Ants"
    Greek for "goes both ways"

    Description:
    Dragon with two heads (one on its tail) that can also roll its body into a hoop.
    Also portrayed with scaled body, rooster feet, feathered wings.
    Runs like lightning
    Eats ants
    Poisonous
    The two halves can reunite if broken or cleaved in half.

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Aids pregnancy and arthritis
    Skin used to remedy chilblains - swelling induced by cold - according to Pliny

    Origins and Historocity:
    Spawned of Medusa's Gorgan blood
    Originated in Africa, and may have been inspired by a lizard with a long tail and eye markings on its tail.

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Stories say that the female will keep one head awake at all times while guarding her eggs. Other legends say that soon-to-be mothers should wear a live amphisbaena around their neck for safeguard and a dead amphisbaena can cure rheumatism.

    Sources:
    Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts, Draconian.com/whatis, Morgeu, DenCity, Windseeker, Circle of the Dragon, Tysha Dragon
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    Characteristics:
    According to dragon-magick practicioners, amphipteres reside on the Astral plane where they fly constantly and watch over us with flowing energy.
    Can usually be found guarding the worldly treasures with hypnotic eyes, and knowledge of all but one of the secrets of the world.

    Description:
    Has wings, but no legs (although some sources do say some Amphipetere's have 2 front legs)

    Associations / Symbolism:
    unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Originate from Mexico
    Also found in Britain, the Middle East, Egypt, and Peru.

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Most famous is Quetzalcoatl
    It's the Amphiptere whose teeth are featured in Herculean stories and others.

    Sources:
    Draconian.com/whatis, Morgeu, DenCity, DragonMuse, WaterDragon/type.html
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    Characteristics:
    Travellers would carry roosters for protection
    Ashes scattered in temples to prevent snakes
    Appeared on the headdress of the Pharoah as the "royal Basilisk"
    Born from the blood of the Gorgan's eyes
    May not have hatched from eggs but rather from toad dung in a leathery pouch laid by a rooster.
    Able to run on water
    Connected to the Gnostic Abraxas
    Names means "Regulus" or "Prince" in Greek / Latin
    Likes to live in desert areas and will trick humans into staying away
    Venomous, and can kill at a glance by turning the object of its stare into stone. Or with its smell.
    The Greek word of king "basileus" is the basis for its name
    Poisons the land it travels on, including streams, lakes, and soil.
    3 things are immune: weasel, cockerel, and rue (a plant). The weasel would use the rue to heal itself after battling with the Basilisk, and the cockerel crowing would drive it away. Mirrors and the sight of itself have often been mentioned. Also scared of the mongoose, ichneumon and enhydris.
    Thought to be in northern Africa and western Europe,including the Swiss Alps and African deserts

    Description:
    Possibly an Egyptian spitting lizard?
    Most often represented as a reptile or lizards with a narrow head and spray of hair, and thick legs. Although some sources say its very white or has no legs at all and red. Others say it is striped lengthwise with white marks about six inches in size. Some say has a crown-like mark on its head and very small - less than a foot long.
    Body is 1-3 feet, but rarely longer/larger

    Associations / Symbolism:
    unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Wycliff's 1382 Bible translated Basilisk into Cockatrice
    More confusion added with the world "basili-coc" being both the King Cobra and the King Cock, the Cocodrillus (crocodile) and Trachilus (bird that picked crocodilian teeth clean).

    Related Tales / Literature:
    "the poison in a Basilisk that was wounded by a knight traveled up the horseman's spear, killing both the rider and the horse" (Source: Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts)
    Alexander, while beseiging a city, found that his men were dying from a Basilisk and he set up a mirror to reflect the deadly stare. St. George once did the same with his shield. (Source: Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts).
    Has been featured in the Harry Potter Series
    Some say its the precursor to the Cockatrice

    Sources:
    Dragons and Dragon Lore, Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts, Book of Beasts, Ancient Deities pg 93, www.bungee.demon.co.uk/html/origins.html, Morgeu, DenCity, WaterDragon (type.html), www.angelfire.com/nd/Nevaren/info.html, webhome.idirect.com/~donlong/monsters/Html/Basilisk.htm

    Characteristics:
    Hoards treasure

    Description:
    Orange head and the brown or black wings of a dragon, black eyes, and the heads of a lion and goat. Sometimes with 3 heads, others with wings.
    Breath weapon is Flame

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    The story goes that it was harrassing the town of Lycia until the King Proetus asked Bellerophon to kill it. In one version he uses Pegasus to shoot arrows from the sky, and in another version he put a block of lead down its throat with a spear.

    Sources:
    Polenth - typedd, Circle of the Dragon
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    ngutang dulu ya hihihi....

    Characteristics:
    Unknown

    Description:
    Amphisien's have a 2nd head on its tail and are used in heraldry
    Offspring of the rooster only.
    Possibly an Egyptian spitting lizard?
    Has the body of a lizard, the head of a rooster, and feathered wings, or bat wings. Some sources also say it has wattles (loose flesh) hanging from both sides of its head

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Represented Sin and Death to Christians during Medieval times

    Origins and Historocity:
    First seen in the deserts of north Africa during the 1st Century AD
    Thought to have been the evolved form of the Basilisk.

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Appears in some Bibles - although the author might have meant viper instead

    Sources:
    Dragons and Dragon Lore, Morgeu, WaterDragon/type.html, TyshaDragon
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    Characteristics:
    Unknown

    Description:
    Has only legs, no wings, and are sometimes mistaken for lizards and salamanders
    FireDrakes are reddish and have a firey breath weapon
    ColdDrakes are usually white or blueish and breath frost, snow, and hail
    Do not fly
    Approx 4-40 feet long

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Some sources associate drakes with elemental powers of fire.

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Appears in Teutonic myths

    Sources:
    Draconian.com/whatis.html, Morgeu, DenCity, WaterDragon/type.html

    Firedrake

    colddrake

    Characteristics:
    The African Hydra is also known as the Waterlord and his story can be read at Polenth's site.

    Description:
    The Learnean Hydra (Hercules's foe), had 9 heads and lived in Lerna in a pool formed by the Amymone spring. It is the half sister of the Nemean Lion. When one of her heads was cut, two more would grow in its place.
    8 heads were mortal, 1 was immortal.
    Earliest representations are on a 14th Century BC Syrian seal that reflects a Babylonian influence.
    Characterized by multiple heads and necks, but may appear with or without wings and legs
    Also characterized by thick legs and tail

    Associations / Symbolism:
    In the Bible, the hydra's mouth is representative of the gateway to hell.
    Symbol of fertilization because it can regenerate itself

    Origins and Historocity:
    David Jones, in An Instinct for Dragons, speculates that the hydra's many heads were more a portrayal of motion and danger than an actual physical description. He bases this on engravings dated between 30,000 and 10,000 BC and found in Southern France. The artist had drawn a "herd of reindeer" in a single line although other drawings of the region (author had specified ones in Spain for comparison) show herds as groups. This, Jones suggests, could mean a depiction of movement in the French engraving. If true, he continues, that could mean that the hydra's many heads are also movement-based. And for primitives, movement by large creatures and predators always meant danger.

    Related Tales / Literature:
    A Biblical Hydra, as portrayed in Apocrypha as huge, red, seven crowned heads, and ten horns and fought Michael and his angels before being cast back to earth.
    Red Dragon of the Apocalypse

    Sources:
    Draconian.com/whatis, Morgeu, Polenth, DenCity
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    Griffin

    Guivre - See Wyrm

    Characteristics:
    Breath Fire
    Notorious for never giving up
    Reside in streams and under the earth
    Some believe that it's a product of lizards and Wyrms
    Eats people (maidens), and steals cattle, and loves the taste of horse

    Description:
    Scaley and green-gold coloured and have cat-like sharp eyes
    No legs or feet, but do have wings. Other sources say it has feet, but no wings.

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Symbol of war and pestilence

    Origins and Historocity:
    A lindorm skull discovered in 1335 was revealed to be that of a wholly rhino in 1935 by R. Pusching. The skull was the inspiration for a late 16th century dragon-shaped fountain.
    Origins in the Germanic Lore, although other sources place it in the Americas and discovered by Marco Polo.

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Related to the Wyvern
    Bride of the Lindworm King
    King Lindworm

    Sources:
    webhome.idirect.com/~donlong/monsters/html, DragonMuse, From Flying Toads to Snakes with Wings.
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    Nagas

    Characteristics:
    Unknown

    Description:
    tail in its mouth
    Serpentine, sometimes with wings

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Symbolizes: eternity, natural cycles, day and night, completion

    Origins and Historocity:
    Dated to around 17th Century BC

    Related Tales / Literature:
    One story goes that Oroburus was traveling through the heavens, got tired, and curled up to sleep. The earth formed around it.

    Sources:
    Various
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    Peluda

    Characteristics:
    Alchemists call it the Spirit of Fire essential to convert into gold
    In heraldry, figure is in flames
    Produces "Salamander's Wool", a fire resistive fabric
    Thought to reside in fire and flames, including home hearths.

    Description:
    Small, 4 feet, spots
    Extinguishes flame with its cold

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Was eventually associated with witches through fire, and some witches could transform into salamanders to escape the flames.

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Seen at volcano's bases, including in Kingdom of Prestor John, King of all the Indias

    Sources:
    Morgeau, Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts

    Characteristics:
    Reside only in fresh or salt water
    Spend most of their lives in freshwater lakes and streams, and will occasionally migrate to warmer waters when necessary.

    Description:
    Is occasionally mistaken for masses of sea kelp or huge squid

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Featured on old maps in regions labeled "Here Be Dragons"
    This dragon may have originated with sightings of the Basilosaurus, a dinosaur with a long body, short neck and sharp teeth that occasionally surfaced near boats. Other sightings may have been long lines of porpoises that come up for air in a wave-like motion that resembles a serpent. Most common and consistent are sightings of giant squid since the body types, locations, and adversarial relationship with the whale - all of which are consistent with various sightings of sea serpents

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Loch Ness in Scotland.
    Leviathan

    Sources:
    Draconian.com/whatis, Britannica, WaterDragon/type.html

    Characteristics:
    Early form

    Description:
    Large wingless snakes with dragon-type heads, horns, and crocodile jaws. Some images do show wings.

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Associated with rivers, lakes and seas.


    Origins and Historocity:
    Unkown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Unknown

    Sources:
    www.geocities.com/Area51/1044/typesof.html, Dict
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    Characteristics:
    Unknown

    Description:
    Water Dragon
    Loch Ness without a neck
    Smallest are dolphin sized, and can range up to a very large whale

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Unknown

    Sources:
    Unknown

    Characteristics:
    Draco Splendens
    amourous
    very picky
    everything has to be beautiful
    shy
    cannot bear to have chains or bonds around his neck (he'd been captured long long ago)
    Could and would come up on towns and ports with great stealth
    Found in both salt and fresh water
    Can only eat virgins, or get indigestion
    Lives in dry caves with submerged entrances, interior decorated

    Description:
    Back legs have been finned to adapt to swimming
    Can store oxygen in his stomach and transfer it to his lungs as needed
    Soft, pleasing voice
    Young are hatched on beaches and watched from a distance by the father
    7 meters long
    Associations / Symbolism:

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Diary of Expeditions and Discoveries of the New World, De Silva, 1612
    Paulo and the young Andre Do Gao disembarked on the lush island, which seemed to be inhabited only by birds and crabs. Paulo saw a huge brilliantly colored water lizard which appeared to be quite tame but very timid. He called his companion and they managed to catch the animal.

    When the two naturalists wanted to bring him on board, the animal let out a series of howls and from the sea appeared an enormous lizard which threw itself on the unfortunate pair. Andre' died in the fray, with his head virtually torn from his body, and Paulo managed to survive because he threw the basket with the young lizard into the sea. Immediately, the sea monster abandoned the pursuit to save the drowning animal.

    We were so overwhelmed by this incident that we did not dare return to the island to recover Andre's body and bury him.

    Sources:
    clarkson.edu/~sargenrw/dragons/bookofdragon/waterdgn.htm, clarkson.edu/~sargenrw/dragons/bookofdragon/water1.htm, White Tygre

    Characteristics:
    No real breath weapon, but occasionally can take in vast amounts of water and "spit" at opponents
    Favorite food is pigs.
    Generally treasure guarding, but not always
    Fairly mean
    The term is often used as a derogative to dragons
    Found in England near water, or in the northern countries

    Description:
    Can rejoin pieces if cleaved
    No legs or wings - much like a regular serpent
    Scales, fangs, claws, and fire

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Lambton Wyrm
    Laidly Worm
    Beowulf and Grendal
    Siegried and Fafnir
    Dragon of Wantley
    Tatzleworm
    Gargouille
    Guivre

    Sources:
    Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts, www.bungee.demon.co.uk/html/origins.html, Morgeu, DenCity, WaterDragon/type.html, www.angelfire.com/nd/Nevaren/info.html

    Characteristics:
    Very carnivorous
    Energies are hard to control
    Usually seen on European coat of arms
    Symbol of Strength in heraldry
    The name originates from the French wyvere meaning "serpent" or "life"

    Description:
    The changed version is mean with small beady eyes and wings, representing only evil, war, and viciousness
    Tail sometimes is a poisoned stinger
    AD&D versions are brown or grey, with orange or red eyes and are not very intelligent
    Small dragon with two legs and two bat-like wings. Sometimes the wings have grasping claws on the ends.

    Associations / Symbolism:
    Unknown

    Origins and Historocity:
    Unknown

    Related Tales / Literature:
    Appears in the Dragonslayer Movie
    Some manuscripts dating from 1448 say that Satan appeared on earth as a wyvern on occasion.
    Related to the Lindorm, and some sources make them the same dragon
    The French version is sweeter and life-giving. See Voivre / Wouive

    Sources:
    Book of Dragons and Other Mythical Beasts, Giants, Monsters and Dragons pg 399, WaterDragon, www.bungee.demon.co.uk/html/origins.html Draconian.com/whatis, www.polenth.demon.co.uk/dragon/typedd.html, Morgeu, DenCity, DragonMuse
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    Btw this is my first post, jadi kalo sedikit berantakan harap dimaklumi ya :rokok:
    bakal di update terus beserta gambar2 nya, ini blon lengkap..
    soalnya ada beberapa cerita dan asal dragon tersebut, jadi harus dipisah2in dulu :haha::haha
    and untuk next update list:
    - roda kehidupan
    - penjelasan indonesia
    - penyesuaian gambar yg benar lgsg dari myth ato legendnya (bukan keren2an doang)
    - tambahan cerita evolusi naga ver indonesia

    so buat yang fans ama naga jangan pelit2 mampir ya, and kalo ada info sharing2 :lol:
     
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    Dragon East bentuknya mirip ular
    Dragon West bentuknya mirip kadal bersayap
     
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    baru tau saia kl ada jenis macem2..
     
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    Chimaera, Basilisk, dan Cockatrice termasuk dragon kah? :???:

    ditunggu lanjutannya :onion-89:
     
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    bukannya di cina naga tuh termasuk di jajaran dewa ?? :???:
     
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    ia kalo di religinya naga itu ada di atasnya manusia 1 tingkat :belajar: and masuk golongan dewa..
    nanti ogut masukin juga roda kehidupannya di update selanjutnya :onion-52:

    hu uh, nanti update selanjutnya ogut cari gambar2 detailnya :onion-86:
    btw thanks support nya :rokok:
     
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    dan naga baik di china daratan, jepang, dan korea semuanya berhubungan dengan cuaca.
     
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    Kayaknya pernah baca ato liat di TV yah kalo gak salah kenapa bentuk naga di West mirip ama kadal karena soalnya di sana emang seringnya mereka liat binatang yang kayak gitu ya. Salamander sendiri kan emang bener-bener ada. Dan mirip banget ama gambaran cerita di mana makhluk bersisik, ada durinya, dan lain-lain. Bener gak sih gitu ?
     
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    kayanya si gitu.....
    orang barat ma orang orang timur memiliki persepsi yang berbeda-beda tentang naga..
     
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    iya salamander tuh memang ada :merokok:
    sebenarnya salamander sendiri kalo di indonesia ngak jauh ama kadal :lol:
    tapi kyknya itu bukan alasan kenapa naga sendiri digambarin kyk gitu, kalo yg neubie baca sih gara2 mereka terinspirasi ama bentuk dinosaurus.. :merokok:
     
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    Di Indonesia punya naga kan.. Komodo..
    Btw kalo naga bener2 ada knapa gak ada fossilnya ya..
    Dinosaurus aja ada.. naga harusnya juga ada
    (berharap ada bukti, hehehe)
     
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    masih ada cerita ttg wyvern tapi blon sempet dimasukin :merokok:

    itu dia yg bikin bingung para ilmuwan, tapi kalo di timur naga kan kyk mahluk spiritual jadi memang dianggap ngak ada yg kesisa kalo umurnya habis, malah ada bacaan yang ngangep kalo naga itu lv nya hampir sama seperti genderuwo (genderuwo = bukan hantu loh :lol: tapi mahluk gaib)

    sering2 mampir ya gan, ntar diganti jadi bahasa indo semua and ditambah lagi :lol:
     
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