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Learning Let's Learn English Here (Ayo belajar bahasa inggris)

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    klo mau sekedarnya tampa perhatiin grammer maen di komunitas luar broh, klo ente demen maen game cari aja forum2 game luar.
    klo ente mau bner2 bisa dgn grammar yg baik ya bagusnya les aja bro.

    klo sekedar ngomong doang ga ush takut, orang bule aja sering salah kok grammarnya :v
     
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    grmmar ini yang simple tense itu ya gan?
    soalnya ane taunya arti-arti kata-kata aja tu ane cari tau aja artinya
    trus ane coba bikin kalimatnya gan, ane cek google translate, kadang ane suka ragu ini benar atau kaga :haha:
    oke gan ane coba dah

    I want to practice and untuk membuat ngangkut terus dikepa ane gimana ya gan?
    and I practice with app in andoid is good or bad?

    oh ya gan
    arti dari
    sekarang saya menyadari arti dari semuanya ini
    now I realize the meaning all of this

    benar kaga gan?
     
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    Ada 16 tenses bruh, tp yg bnyk dipake paling cuman yg type simple, continuous, sama perfect (<<< agak jarang).

    Bruh jangan google translate dehh, gk bisa dipercaya. Banyak salahnya, mending translate sendiri.
    Btw kalo mau translate sebenernya gk perlu 100% literal, kata2 boleh diubah dikit asal maknanya sama. Soalnya susah 100% harafiah itu, malah jadinya kedengeran jelek, soalnya emg Engrish tu banyak pake istilah2 yg kalo di- translate scr literal jd aneh banget artinya. Not recommended.

    Now I realize the meaning of all this.
     
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    Maaf, numpang tanya dan maaf kalau post-nya terlalu panjang..
    Kalau saya salah kamar, mohon dimaafkan dan dituntun ke kamar yang benar..

    Saya mohon pendapat teman - teman mengenai terjemahan Bahasa Inggris ke Bahasa Indonesia baku.
    Pertanyaan saya singkatnya adalah:
    Apa terjemahan baku dari English ke Bahasa Indonesia baku untuk kata reprove, rebuke & admonish?

    Maksud saya, apa ada Bahasa Indonesia yang baku untuk masing-masing kata tersebut?

    Menurut American Heritage Dictionary:

    Reprove
    tr.v. re·proved, re·prov·ing, re·proves 1. To express disapproval to (someone); criticize: See Synonyms at admonish.
    2. To express disapproval about (something):

    Pertanyaan:
    Lebih baik diterjemahkan ke Bahasa Indonesia menggunakan membantah, menolak, menegur (karena mengekspersikan ketidak setujuan) atau mengkritik (sesuai dengan kata criticize)?
    + Perhatikan sinonim reprove adalah admonish...

    Rebuke tr.v. re·buked, re·buk·ing, re·bukes 1. To criticize (someone) sharply; reprimand. See Synonyms at admonish.
    2. To express sharp criticism regarding (an act, for example): "a series of sweeping decisions that rebuked the investigators' presumptions" (Donald A. Ritchie).
    3. Obsolete To check or repress.

    n. An expression of strong disapproval.

    Pertanyaan:
    Nah, kalau yang ini bagaimana? mengkritisi secara tajam? menolak keras? ataukah, ada kata spesifik yang lebih baku? lagipula, beda mengkritik dengan mengkritik secara tajam itu seperti apa ya?
    + Perhatikan sinonim reprove adalah admonish...

    Admonish
    tr.v. ad·mon·ished, ad·mon·ish·ing, ad·mon·ish·es 1. a. To counsel (another) against something to be avoided or warn (that something is dangerous): "[Another competitor in the race] admonished him on the dangers of going out too fast" (Neal Bascomb). "Magazine articles ... admonished that women's financial independence was driving a wedge between husband and wife" (Lillian Faderman).
    b. To urge or exhort (someone to do something): "Writers like Emerson and Thoreau ... admonished us to develop ourselves according to nature" (E.D. Hirsch).
    c. To remind (someone) of something forgotten or disregarded, as an obligation or a responsibility.

    2. To reprove gently but earnestly:

    Pertanyaan:
    Nah, kalau yang ini dilihat dari artinya, lebih tepat ke arah menasihati daripada menegur (google translate menerjemahkan kata ini jadi menegur)..
    Arti dari kata admonish ini malah lebih tepat bila disinonimkan dengan kata exhort..

    So, bagaimana menurut saudara-saudari? apa terjemahan terbaik yang baku untuk Bahasa Indonesia untuk reprove, rebuke & admonish?

    Saya pernah tanya ke orang Amerika mengenai penggunaan kata-kata tersebut oleh mereka sendiri.. berikut jawaban dia:
    Intermezzo:
    Well, sinonim kata reprove & rebuke adalah admonish..
    arti no. 2 dari admonish adalah To reprove gently but earnestly..
    reprove = criticize atau disapproval
    rebuke = criticize sharply
    strong disapproval = strong reprove..
    Jadi....

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    Menegur dengan keras = menegur dengan lembut?
     
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    if you want to know more about English, you can try reading popular website such as 9gag, reddit, buzzfeed, list25, etc.

    Have a book to take notes ... maybe some sentences or vocabs that interest you.

    listen to regular conversation in elllo
    subscribe TedEd: https://www.youtube.com/user/TEDEducation

    If you do those things regularly, I am sure your English will improve.

    Godspeed.

    dibantu yaaa
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    reprove = pernyataan yg ditujukan (untuk perilaku konyol/tidak seharusnya)
    Sang guru dengan lembut menasihati/memperingatkan anak laki-laki karena mereka tidak memperhatikan.
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    rebuke = membentak/membantah (kemungkinan sambil marah) (karena kita ga suka/tidak setuju ucapan / perilaku org lain)
    Aku diomelin oleh bosku karena telat.
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    admonish = memberitahukan orang lain kesalahan mereka
    menyarankan orang lain melakukan sesuatu

    Ibunya memperingatkannya/memberinya peringatan karena makan terlalu cepat.
    lebih natural: Ibunya ngasi tau kalo makan jangan cepet - cepet. Ibunya memperingatkannya untuk tidak terburu-buru saat makan.

    Gurunya mengingatkannya agar bekerja lebih giat lagi untuk ujian-ujiannya.

    Diluar topik:
    Selama pengalaman ane 10 tahun jadi penerjemah, baku bukan masalah yang utama gan ... gimana agar maknanya sampe dengan pas, sesuai konteks itu lebih penting daripada baku. Layer kosakata tiap bahasa kan beda beda. Indonesia punya banyak cara menyatakan masaknya beras .. karena budaya kita makan beras .. kalau orang sana mungkin punya banyak cara menyatakan kuda .. atau bir .. karena mereka punya budaya minuman keras dan pacuan kuda.

    Salam HPI. Hehehe...
     
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    OK, kalau saya ambil
    reprove diterjemahkan jadi menegur,
    rebuke diterjemahkan jadi menegur dengan tajam (ga ada satu kata yang lebih tepat ya?),
    admonish diterjemahkan jadi menasihati (karena ada perbedaan dengan dua sebelumnya di memberi saran)
    bisa kali ya?
    Iya sih, tapi kebetulan ini keinginan saya pribadi aja buat nyoba sebisa mungkin menggunakan kata-kata yang baku untuk setiap kata dalam bahasa inggris.. walau memang agak mustahil.. :XD:

    Sekali lagi terima kasih banyak bang.. :hmm:
     
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    rebuke biasa kuartiin membantah sih, soalnya biasa konteksnya memang lebih cocok menmbantah

    I guess it should be this? :bloon: Now I just realize the meaning of all these things

    mungkin masih kurang buat jadi effective sentence

    btw buat latihan biasain aja buat yang basic-basic seperti bahasa komputer, hp sama google pakai bahasa inggris dikit

    lumayan buat nambah dari sisi vocabulary :maling:

    klo mau belajar inggris yang agak lumayan nyangkut juga sebaiknya perbanyak nonton series barat tanpa sub atau minimal sub inggris, jangan pakai sub indo, or coba buka2 aja diskusi yang biasanya pakai bahasa inggris (yang saya recommend sih baca2 aja di quora, sesuaikan sama minat buat topiknya, ada yang ringan kek misal parenting, suasana kota sampai yang berat seperti misalnya bahas history ataupun politik) :lol:
     
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    Kalo belajar grammar enak baca berita (news) aja sihh. Berita lo ya, bukan sembarang artikel di internet, soalnya masi banyak salah juga tuh (paling nohok tu liat he's <=> his, they're <=> their wakakaka).
    Bacalah misal berita pemilu di Amiriki sana. Kalo ente komputernya pake windows kan ada tuh semacam program News, bagus kok buat latihan.
    Artikel berita juga banyak pake istilah2 yg walo blm pernah denger pasti ngerti soalnya intuitive, so tambah bagus buat latihan.

    Kalo nonton movie tanpa subtitle sih menurut ane dah termasuk advanced, harus udah jago Engrish dulu.
    Apalagi dengerin musik, ane sampe skrg denger lagu Barat 80% gk ngerti artinya :lol: >>> lbh susah dr movie.
     
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    btw agan-agn ane hobi nonton wwe gitu :haha:
    disitu ane dengerin bahasa inggrisnya ga terlalu sulit
    apa bisa ya dijadiin bahan buat belajar?
     
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    Klo listening sihh coba nonton video youtube aja, yg channel luar lo ya, bkn dlm negeri :haha:
    Nonton video review apalah, yg penting speaker nya native :hmm:
    Kalo mau tantangan coba nonton debat capres Amiriki 2016 yg dulu sempet bikin heboh :top:
     
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    oke gan ane tak cari dulu? :sembah:
    btw kalau video review itu kata-kata yang digunakan mudah-mudahkan?
    ntar kebanyakan istilah binung ane :haha:
    native itu apa maksudnya gan?
     
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    Native: pengguna bahasa asli. Mksdnya disini orang British ato American, yg bhs sehari—harinya English.
    No SARA ya, tp ane kira speaker English dari ras lain (Indian, Singaporean) tu aksen bicara mereka susah banget dimengerti, apalagi buat pemula.
    Saran ane sih cari yg speaker nya American dulu aja, British English agak lbh susah soalnya.


    Btw iya sih review tu sifatnya teknis, ya terserah sih mau nonton apa yg pening enjoy aja :haha:

    Sent from my m2 note using Tapatalk
     
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    I hate when english movie dubbed with Indonesian . Ups sory , I mean bahasa .
     
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    1. Whom did you get that message from?
    (A) The manager of the payroll department.
    (B) Yesterday, we talked about it.
    (C) John didn’t know about the message.

    Dari siapa kamu dapat pesan itu?
    A. manager bagian payroll = jawaban yang benar
    B. kemarin, kita udah bicarakan ini.
    C. John ngga tahu soal pesan itu.

    2. Whose jacket is that?
    (A) It was made in China.
    (B) It’s made of cotton.
    (C) It’s mine.

    Jaket siapa itu?
    A. Ini dibuat di Cina.
    B. Ini bahannya katun.
    C. Ini punya saya. = jawaban yang benar

    3. Who didn’t attend the meeting yesterday?
    (A) John forgot about the meeting.
    (B) It finished late.
    (C) The personnel manager.

    Siapa yang nggak datang rapat kemarin?
    A. John lupa tentang rapat.
    B. Selesainya telat.
    C. Manajer Personalia. = jawaban yang benar

    4. When did you get up this morning?
    A. At dawn.
    B. Yes, I got up early this morning.
    C. Because of a loud noise.

    Kapan kamu bangun pagi ini?
    A. fajar = jawaban yang benar.
    B. Ya, aku bangun cepet pagi ini.
    C. Karena suara berisik.

    5. When do you think you can finish the report?
    A. I didn't think it was difficult.
    B. It will be done by the third.
    C. I'm looking forward to it.

    Menurutmu kapan laporan bisa kamu selesaikan?
    A. Aku tidak merasa itu sulit.
    B. Akan selesainya tanggal tiga. = jawaban yang benar
    C. Aku tunggu ya.

    6. When are you visiting the Hong Kong branch?
    A. I'm going in a few days.
    B. Yes, I am visiting it soon.
    C. I didn't go to Hong Kong this time.

    Kapan kamu akan mengunjungi cabang Hong Kong?
    A. Aku akan pergi dalam beberapa hari. = jawaban yang benar
    B. Ya, aku akan segera mengunjunginya.
    C. Aku tidak pergi ke Hong Kong kali ini.
     
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    1. Where is a shoe store near here?
    A. Leather shoes last longer.
    B. The shop has a large selection of shoes.
    C. Down the street, past the church.
    C

    2. Where’s your new office?
    A. I’m in the cafeteria.
    B. On the fourth floor.
    C. It’s too big.
    B

    3. Where do you usually buy your coffee?
    A. It’s rather expensive these days.
    B. At a little store next to the supermarket.
    C. I don’t drink coffee at work.
    B

    4. What time does the movie start?
    A. It will last about two hours.
    B. There is no theater here.
    C. I don’t know. Let’s look at the timetable.
    C

    5. What does your sister do?
    A. He works at a bank.
    B. She’s a salesperson.
    C. She can help you any time you want.
    B

    6. What are you going to tell Mr. Runfeld when he calls?
    A. He is going to call this afternoon.
    B. I’ll think of something to say, so don’t worry.
    C. I couldn’t answer the phone.
    B

    7. How would you like your coffee?
    A. No sugar, please.
    B. Yes, I would like coffee.
    C. I prefer coffee to tea.
    A

    8. How long have you been here?
    A. About three and a half years.
    B. It took three hours by bus.
    C. I’m fine. How about you?
    A

    9. How long does it take to get to the town center from here?
    A. There’s a bus every thirty minutes.
    B. No more than 20 minutes, if the traffic is light.
    C. I’m driving to the town center tonight.
    B

    10. Why do you think he didn’t support our plan?
    A. I don’t think it's wrong at all.
    B. He seems to dislike any new ideas.
    C. You’re right about that.
    B

    11. Why was he late for school?
    A. It’s not my fault.
    B. I think he took the wrong bus.
    C. School finished at 5:00.
    B

    12. Why didn’t you tell me that he had resigned?
    A. I thought that you already knew.
    B. Yes, he resigned yesterday.
    C. Because it’s a hot day.
    A
     
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    1. Didn't you go to the book fair?
    A. Sure, if you want to.
    B. I did, but I didn't stay long.
    C. Yes, I didn't.

    B

    2. Are you going to attend the conference?
    A. I guess so.
    B. We were too late.
    C. From the 2nd to the 5th.

    A

    3. Could you show me how this fax machine works?
    A. It is a new fax machine.
    B. Of course. It's very simple.
    C. Has the fax already been sent?

    B

    4. Are you going to buy a new computer or just continue using the old one?
    A. Neither. I'm going to lease one.
    B. Yes, I'd like one, thank you.
    C. That's impossible. I can't afford a new one.

    A

    5. Which do you prefer, the yellow T-shirt or the blue one?
    A. Yes, I like the blue one.
    B. Neither.
    C. Both of them are very cheap.

    B

    6. Is Joseph or Manuel going to present the proposal?
    A. Yes, they are going to make the presentation.
    B. Manuel said he would do it.
    C. Well, I'd like to, but I'm busy.

    B

    7. I've put the accounting files on your desk.
    A. Thanks. I'll look at them later.
    B. I haven't phoned yet.
    C. It's going to be difficult to finish.

    A

    8. Thank you for taking the time to come here in person.
    A. There are many people in this branch.
    B. Don't mention it. It's my pleasure.
    C. What do you feel like eating?

    B

    9. I've arranged the meeting for three o'clock on Thursday.
    A. I don't enjoy meetings.
    B. I have had a lot of phone calls today.
    C. Good, I'll mark it on my planner.

    C
     
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    Too easy dude, figure out the question type (yes/no, who, where, when, how, what, why) and done! Only one answer stands out.
    Typical pertanyaan TOEFL ITP hehe, saran sih latihan pake yg jenis IELTS aja lbh edukatif (tipe essay bukan pilihan).
    Atau yg tentang grammar, asik itu :hehe:


    Just me opinion :maling:
     
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    haha ... sengaja ane kasih TOEIC dulu .. biasa soal anak SMK kelas 1 .. biar makin lama makin naik baru soalnya forum sekarang lagi sepi...
    ini salah satu posting dari thread IELTS ane di forum tetangga. Postingan yang kaya ginikah maksudnya?
    mau lebih lengkapnya bisa cek di forum tetangga atau di web ane bumibahasa.com
    feel free kalau mau tanya tanya seputar IELTS atau TOEFL ... biar kita ramein forum yang sepi ini ...

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    pembuatannya:

    Silakan tonton: Ada kesalahan fatal
    Saya bilang disitu
    Jgn bikin kalimat panjang panjang
    Padahal yg mestinya saya katakan adalah
    Jangan bikin kalimat banyak banyak
    Nah jadi ini ralat dari sisi saya ya - juga grammar belum saya cek - di sisa 5 menit terakhir.

    essay hasilnya

    The chart informs in general about the average GDP growth per decade for the three different types of countries for a total period of 40 years.
    The wealthy countries recorded a very impressive GDP growth in the beginning of this period of four decades where the figure was in the range of 4.7 percent. In the same period, however, the figure for the countries adhering to globalization was only 1.4 percent, while the countries that did not adopt the globalization existed at the level of 2.4 percent.

    In the 1970s when the countries, which accepted globalization and rejected globalization, both increased their figures quite significantly, the wealthy countries had quite the opposite experience as it underwent a drastic decline to a level of 3 percent. The GDP growth rates of the wealthy countries continued to deteriorate until it reached 2 percent at the end of the period.

    It can also be seen that countries that did not accept globalization were devastated in the period of 1980s and despite a surge in the 1990s the figure remained the lowest compared to that of the other two categories. Countries practicing globalization, on the contrary, maintained the rate of increase in GDP growth in the two final periods reaching 4.9 percent, where it surpassed the record growth of the wealthy countries in the beginning of the period.
     
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    heeeeey guys :ogblink::ogblink:, im new here,i have problems with my english and its really really bad. basiclly im student. i want to apply some of university this year annnnd the problem, one of requirement to enter this university is toefl with score 525 or higher :ogmatabelo::ogmatabelo: therefore, can u guys gimme advice , any tips or secret for passing TOEFL HEHE:ogblink: so i can overcome it . THAAANKS A LOT

    Note : btw , i had 9 days left from now on :ogaaaa::ogaaaa:
     

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IDWS, dari kami yang terbaik-untuk kamu-kamu (the best from us to you) yang lebih dikenal dengan IDWS adalah sebuah forum komunitas lokal yang berdiri sejak 15 April 2007. Dibangun sebagai sarana mediasi dengan rekan-rekan pengguna IDWS dan memberikan terbaik untuk para penduduk internet Indonesia menyajikan berbagai macam topik diskusi.