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Origin Penemu Telepon, "Ternyata bukan Graham Bell !!"

Discussion in 'History and Culture' started by b3ll4my, Jul 12, 2009.

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  1. erha M V U

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    mungkin di Amrik dah ada tp teknologi semacam ini biasanya gak mau disebarluaskan kan program rahasia.

    BTT: masalah royalti gmana? kalo telepon ada royaltinya berarti semua yg pernah diterima Bell harus dikembalikan dong ke pemilik hak paten yg sesungguhnya
     
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    Iya juga ya. Amerika emang biasa rada pelit kalo soal tekno. cuman ini tekno buat ngebantu ngelawan teroris. kecuali tekno ini bisa juga digunakan buat warfare.
    Btw --> by the way
    BTT --> ?
     
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    BTT = Back To Topic
     
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    Waduh pak Bell..
    jangan ngerebut punya orang dunk..
    jadi kecewa neh..
     
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    salah kaprah tingkat parah ne.....

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    Tanya Gan.,
    Pak Bell itu pendiri Bell Lab's (sekarang kalo gak salah Pack**d Bell) Bener gak?. Thanks
     
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    wah maaf all, TS na lagi sibuk ujian:belajar: , baru sempet jenguk forum sekarang nih (haha, malah curhat y ...) :onion-72:,

    sebaiknya jangan terlalu cepat menuduh dan menyangka sesuatu kejadian berdasarkan perkiraan (adanya sebuah konspirasi) tanpa fakta. Mari kita diskusikan berdasarkan sumber yang ada dan barangkali w salah, silahkan perbaiki dengan menyertakan artikel dan sumbernya, biar kita sama-sama belajar, iya kan cc .... :onion-105:

    (sekedar info, ni artikel ada di harddisk saya sudah 2 tahun, tapi sampai skrg lum ada dan g ada perubahan penemu telepon)

    kk syntic, penasaran nih sama Kang Edison yang kata kk penemu telepon itu, sharing dunk artikel tentang dia, bukan "Thomas Alva Edison" khan ? heuheu.....

    jangan bilang sumbernya dari film ya ? :th_104_: Kang Wright Bersaudara kan punya bukti yang kuat sampai akhirnya mereka menang di pengadilan dan akhirnya dunia mencatat bahwa mereka adalah penemu telepon hingga saat ini.

    Toh barangkali nanti ada bukti-bukti baru tentang penemuan telepon ini, mari sama-sama sharing di sini, kan namanya juga bagi-bagi ilmu pengetahuan, y kan ....
    :em0100:
     
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    eh iya, ni tambahan tadi ngubek2 hardisk jadul dan nemu artikel ni, tapi berhubung bahasa inggris w katro, cuma bisa baca sambil nenteng2 kamus heuheu :onion-102: jadi silahkan baca y, jangan minta translate .....
    An Italian researcher in telecommunications, Basilio Catania, and the Italian Society of Electrotechnics, "Federazione Italiana di Elettrotecnica", have devoted a Museum to Antonio Meucci, constructioning a chronology of his inventing the telephone and tracing the history of the two trials involving Meucci and Alexander Graham Bell[3][4]. Both claim that Meucci was the real inventor of the telephone, but base their argument on the reconstruction rather than contemporary evidence. What follows, if not otherwise stated, is a résumé of their historic reconstruction.[5]

    * In 1834 Meucci constructed a kind of acoustic telephone as a way to communicate between the stage and control room at the theatre "Teatro della Pergola" in Florence. This telephone is constructed on the model of pipe-telephones on ships and is still working.[6]
    * In 1848 Meucci developed a popular method of using electric shocks to treat rheumatism. He used to give his patients two conductors linked to 60 Bunsen batteries and ending with a cork. He also kept two conductors linked to the same Bunsen batteries. He used to sit in his laboratory, while the Bunsen batteries were placed in a second room and his patients in a third room. In 1849 while providing a treatment to a patient with a 114V electrical discharge, in his laboratory Meucci heard his patient's scream through the piece of copper wire that was between them, from the conductors he was keeping near his ear. His intuition was that the "tongue" of copper wire was vibrating just like a leave of an electroscope; which means that there was an electrostatic effect. In order to continue the experiment without hurting his patient, Meucci covered the copper wire with a piece of paper. Through this device he heard inarticulated human voice. He called this device "telegrafo parlante" (litt. "talking telegraph").[7]

    On the basis of this prototype, Meucci worked on more than 30 kinds of sound transmitting devices inspired by the telegraph model as did other pioneers of the telephone, such as Charles Bourseul, Philipp Reis, Innocenzo Manzetti and others. Meucci later claimed that he did not think about transmitting voice by using the principle of the telegraph "make-and-break" method, but he looked for a "continuous" solution that did not interrupt the electric current.

    * In 1856 Meucci later claimed that he constructed the first electromagnetic telephone, made of an electromagnet with a nucleus in the shape of a horseshoe bat, a diaphragm of animal skin, stiffened with potassium dichromate and keeping a metal disk stuck in the middle. The instrument was hosted in a cylindrical carton box.[8] He said he constructed this as a way to connect his second-floor bedroom to his basement laboratory, and thus communicate with his wife who was an invalid.

    Meucci separated the two directions of transmission in order to eliminate the so-called "local effect", adopting what we would call today a 4-wire-circuit. He constructed a simple calling system with a telegraphic manipulator which short-circuited the instrument of the calling person, producing in the instrument of the called person a succession of impulses (clicks), much more intense than those of normal conversation. As he was aware that his device required a bigger band than a telegraph, he found some means to avoid the so-called "skin effect" through superficial treatment of the conductor or by acting on the material (copper instead of iron). He successfully used an insulated copper plait, thus anticipating the litz wire used by Nikola Tesla in RF coils.

    * In 1864 Meucci later claimed that he realized his "best device", using an iron diaphragm with optimized thickness and tightly clamped along its rim. The instrument was housed in a shaving-soap box, whose cover clamped the diaphragm.
    * In August 1870, Meucci later claimed that he obtained transmission of articulate human voice at a mile distance by using as a conductor a copper plait insulated by cotton. He called his device "teletrofono". According to an Affidavit of lawyer Michael Lemmi drawings and notes by Antonio Meucci dated September 27 1870 show coils of wire on long distance telephone lines. The painting made by Nestore Corradi [1] in 1858 mentions the sentence "Electric current from the inductor pipe"

    All this information has been published on the Scientific American Supplement No. 520, December 19, 1885 based on 1885 reconstructions for which there is no contemporary pre-1875 evidence.
     
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    yah sama, waktu umur 6 tahun tau ga, w pikir penemu telepon itu orang-orang yang suka pake baju biru, pake mobil bak dan pasang2in telepon , abis dia yang suka bawa-bawa telepon sih. :dead:

    oh iya, kalau bapaknya penemu telepon mah w g tau, lum kenalan nih sama bapaknya Antonio Meucci, hehe kidding :dead: again ....
     
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    Kalo untuk yang cerita Wright, gua baca dari buku Seri Tokoh Dunia
    [​IMG]

    G si gak bilang TS salah ato bener. lu bilang kan mesti sambil ngumpulin fakta-fakta yang terbaru. Dari sini, saya simpulkan tidak tertutup kemungkinan bahwa di masa depan ada muncul fakta baru, betul? Fakta baru --> penemu baru. Kesimpulannya adalah --> Cape de......

    Kalo yang si Bell ini bukunya :
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    satu lg nie sejarah yg perlu diteliti ulang...
     
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    soalnya yang dianggap pnemu adlh pemilik paten komersil pertama, mreka itu yg bysnya jd terkenal.. salah sndiri si meucci pake tlat daftarin paten komersil... =/
     
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    waduh udah 2 tahun berlalu gw baru tau hal yg ginian.huhu...knapa gk ada di brita2 y.
     
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    Wah baru tahu juga...sejak dulu, diajarin di sekolah kalau penemu telepon itu Graham Bell...
     
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