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Legend/Myth John Titor Penjelajah Waktu

Discussion in 'History and Culture' started by raynz, Nov 30, 2008.

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  1. joex Veteran

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    sebagian Kyaknya Hoax tp kemungkinan itu selalu ada~~~
    TimeTravel kyaknya blom masuk logika sy~~
    Klo partikel moving or kyak pintu kemana saja(lupa nama englishnya) itu mungkin terjadi~~~
    Krn dengan bantuan perputaran suatu ruang pada suatu bidang akan membantu perpindahan benda secara singkat~~
    Ya berpindah suatu tempat ketempat lain....Time travel jg sih bisa dibilang cuman kgk kemasa lalu...
    Bingung jg ane jelasinnya..wakkakaka~~~
     
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    gua bingu bagaiman kalo situtor ini balik rupanya nyasar kedimensi yg lain bukan dimensinya...jd kyk gimana gitu
     
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    hauahahaha......kayaknya hoax....tp gw merinding jg klo ni betulan,,,,,,kemapa jhon titor ga ketemu dirinya sendiri ya wktu taon 2000,padahal kan da kluarga nya......seharusnya bs jadi paradoks wktu tuh.
    sok.tahu:mode on........:lol:
     
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    tapi apa smua yg dia prediksi bener??
    apa ada yg salah?
    klo ada yg salah tolong di post donk
    btw ini sama persis kaya di thread sebelah
     
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    wah, beneran ga ya?
    ngeri juga kalo entar bener2 terjadi PD3.
    g selama hidup ga pernah liat perang di depan mata, ga bisa ngebayangin ntar kaya apa. liat perang di gaza aja miris.
    moga2 aja ga bener dah, g pengen hidup damai.
    jangan ada perang lg.
     
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    Bener ky gini kan ktnya da hoax mustinya tuh anak john titor waktu kecil ada skrg,tp mana anaknya?
    Mesin waktu kan puncak ilmu pengetahuan gk mgkn jg bisa diciptakan scpt itu
    Just my opinion
     
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    Klo tahun 1998 harusnya John Titor kecil ada donk sekarang. Tapi koq ga pernah liad kabarnya. Gw rasa seh ini HOAX untuk mencegah bencana bencana ke depan nanti. Jadi klo liad kyk ginian orang - orang jadi mulai berbuat sesuatu biar nantinya dunia ga bakal begitu
     
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    sebenarnya segala bisa aja terjadi
    apalagi mesin waktu di buat pada tahun 2036
    cthnya ketika manusia bisa berjalan di atas bulan
    pasti byk yg bilang nga mgkn bisa
    tp ketika hal itu terjadi byk yg percaya..:D
     
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    kisah john titor ini mudah dibantah

    tidak akan mungkin membuat mesin waktu untuk ke masa lampau

    yg mungkin adalah membuat mesin waktu untuk maju ke masa depan

    yaitu memanfaatkan relativitas waktu

    tapi untuk mencapainya membutuhkan kecepatan minimal kecepatan cahaya

    ada juga manusianya keburu mati doloan kalo melaju dengan kecepatan cahaya

    nah kalo mundur ke masa lampau gimana caranya? ada juga ikutan acara tembang kenangan
     
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    wih...
    keren banget tuh....
    tapi bener bener ada gak nih :swt:

    trus gimana kabar nya tuh orang skrng??
     
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    Tp ...
    apa mungkin PD-3 akan terjadi di msa depan !!!

    Kalo gitu bsa gawat dunk ...
    bsa" Indonesia kna Imbasnya ...
     
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    Buka dulu Wikipedia soal John Titor, di situ dikasih tau sedikit info mengenai dia :D
     
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    jah gw ga percaya nih john titor, sama seperti mas kurapnaga bilang, ga mungkin mundur ke belakang...ke masa depan aja sulit malah hampir ga mungkin. jgnkan manusia, materi mana yang sanggup bergerak dengan kecepatan sekitar 299,792,458 m/s...blom lagi paradoks2 nya yg banyak, mulai dari grandfather paradox ampe time looping...paradox nyang gini jadi batu sandungan buat para "pemimpi-penjelajah waktu"
     
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    ^
    bener
    karena kejadian sekarang ada karena kejadian dari masa lalu
    kalo kejadian masa lalu diubah, maka kejadian sekarang pun berubah
    jadi kalo ada niat buat ngubah masa lalu. terus masa lalu itu diubah, berarti niat itu ilang donk.
    jadi intinya manusia g bisa mengubah masa lalu, kecuali kalo dari dimensi yang berbeda
    ngayal mode on :lol:
     
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    dunia paralel gitu bro? itupun ga mungkin wakakakakak....klo dibilang dunia parallel itu ada dan nyata maka gw yakin jumlahnya sangat tidak terbatas...kekekek klo emang bisa pindah2 gitu yg ada lo nyasar2 di tiap dunia parallel
     
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    Yah, karena dia bilang teori dunia paralel itu benar ada maka John Titor 100% benar :D

    Kenapa? ya itu kalo dunia paralel itu ada maka apa yang dia katakan bisa saja terjadi di dunia yang paralel dengan dunia kita, maka dia berkata jujur mengenai apa yg terjadi di "dunianya" walau sesungguhnya di sini mungkin ga ada apa2
     
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    IMO
    ya mungkin aja ada suatu dunia dimana dunia tersebut sudah bisa menggunakan teori lubang cacing dan akibatnya bukan malah jelajah waktu tapi jelajah dimensi
     
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    hoax nih.
    cek disini
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

    Nih isi kebohongannya
    Examination of the claims


    Predictive failures

    The posts were met with skepticism when they were being posted, but it was impossible to prove beforehand that they would not happen. Because Titor claimed the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics was correct, effectively meaning that his travel was from a parallel universe and that things could occur differently than he had predicted, his claims were unfalsifiable.


    One of Titor's earliest claims was that CERN would discover the basis for time travel sometime around 2001, with the creation of miniature black holes about half a year after his departure. This event did not occur. An article occurring generally around the time he had predicted about miniature black holes being created by CERN (a recurring theme, also ascribed to Fermilab and Brookhaven at various times) was taken by some to be evidence of this claim; but these events did not occur either. Civil war was not even remotely close to breaking out after the 2004 presidential election.

    A particularly obvious example involves the Olympics, whereof Titor claimed: "As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004." The uneventful staging of the 2006 Winter Olympics refutes this claim; however, there were arguments as to whether or not Titor was referring exclusively to the Summer Olympics. Though the successful realization of the 2008 Summer Olympics clearly refutes Titor's prediction, the website www.johntitor.com points to some of the controversies of the opening ceremonies, such as Lin Miaoke lip-synching and fireworks being computer simulated as suggestive that the entire Olympics were faked.

    Problems with the technology

    In the context of the demonstration image provided by John Titor, the laser pointer's beam being "bent" reveals the obvious inconsistency of objects near the beam not appearing to be bent as well. The framing of the window visible in the background, for instance, should appear distorted in proximity to a large gravity gradient, but it does not. Some have speculated the "beam" is an optical fiber.

    Titor claimed that he was sent back to obtain an IBM 5100 because it could translate several types of computer code. According to IBM engineer Bob Dubke, Titor's statements regarding the IBM 5100's little-known ability to emulate and debug mainframe systems were correct. Supporters state that this information was not publicly available in 2000 or 2001 when Titor made his declaration, and Titor himself stated that this feature was "discovered" as late as 2036 when Unix, as the underlying source behind all computer operating systems still running local infrastructures and other computational tasks, was only two years away from not being capable to function anymore due to 32-bit integer limitations (see Year 2038 problem).

    However, this emulation capability was widely known in the industry and commented on in depth in numerous publications dealing with both the 5100 and programmable microcode in general. References to this fact were also available on the Internet as early as 1999 and therefore predated Titor's postings. This is a fairly obscure bit of trivia, however, which suggests that whoever was making the posts either was familiar with the machine specifically or else had at least a general interest in retrocomputing.

    "Apparently, APL was a difficult task for IBM to accomplish with an interpreter in the 5100, so instead they wrote an emulation program so that the S/360 mainframe version of APL could be run instead -- The 5100 is like a desktop IBM S/360 mainframe computer which only runs APL."

    Problems with the story

    Numerous commentators have pointed out the broad similarities between the Titor story and Pat Frank's classic post-apocalyptic science fiction novel Alas, Babylon. Alas, Babylon takes place in a small town in Florida just before and after a nuclear war and describes the struggle to survive as a family in the aftermath. In the book, the protagonist lives in the mythical town of "Fort Repose", while Titor claimed to live in the "Fort", formerly the University of Florida (UF). An examination of the claims also suggests several inconsistencies within the story. For instance, in some posts Titor claims that money is widely used and people still have credit cards, despite his statement that centralized banking no longer exists (though that of course would not exclude the possibilitiy of private currencies being used). In another posting he speculated that today's dollar would be usable in his time, but that this would be after the reorganization of the federal government according to his own history, potentially making the currency worthless. In most cases, he claims to have been given his basic education at UF, but in another post claims to be home-schooled.

    Other problems with the story include inconsistencies relative to Titor's comments. His first appearance appears to have been, not in 2000, but in the summer of 1998 through two faxes to Art Bell's radio program Coast to Coast AM. When he began posting the online story Y2k (1-1-2000) had come and gone without any real problems. Yet in the 1998 faxes to Art Bell he said, "Y2K is a disaster. Many people freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshall [sic] law..."

    In the online story he stated that a part of his mission was to prevent the coming world war by changing history. Yet during October 2000, a month before he began posting, he appeared in a UK IRC chatroom. In the chat log his response to Yariesa's question asking if we could change the future that he was predicting he answered, "It's too late. I just wish things didn't have to happen they way they will."

    Inquiry on the story

    An Italian TV program (Voyager - Ai confini della conoscenza) aired an investigation of the John Titor story on May 19, 2008. Mike Lynch, the private detective hired to investigate, found that there were no registry traces, even far in the past, of any John Titor or Titor family. In addition, the John Titor Foundation had no office and its address is a rented post box; no tapes, recordings, or evidence of Titor were found; and only Larry Haber (an advocate and owner of the commercial rights about all concerns involving John Titor) confirmed his existence. Lynch's conclusion is that John Titor may be John Rick Haber, a computer expert who is or was Larry Haber's brother.
     
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    yak tepat! :lol: klo emang johntitor ada n dunia paralel itu adda maka mungkin yg diceritakan john titor mengenai perang dsb itu trjdi di dunianya...

    tpi yah sayangnya itupun klo memang ada dunia paralel
     
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    Ambil aja pesan2 yang baeknya... :)
     
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